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Dec072009

Specialized BG Defroster Shoes

In So Cal, we can ride pretty much year round.  Our winters are not nearly as severe as other parts of the country, but it still gets cold enough and wet enough to need footwear that can deal with temps in the 30s and 40s and muddy rides.  I have been riding through winter with whatever shoe I had ridden through summer with, but with less than adequate warmth and protection.  Wool socks over feet stuffed into plastic baggies only go so far and then…..brrrr.  I considered booties, but they are kinda fragile and tend to tear if hike a bike happens or the shoe gets into tough terrain. It seemed reasonable to look for, perhaps not a full winter boot…no Iditabike aspirations…but at least a winterized shoe for colder days.

I had purchased a pair of BG mountain bike shoes from the local Specialized dealer about a year ago and I have liked the fit and performance of the shoe.  It seemed reasonable to try the Specialized BG Defroster shoe as a way of gaining some winter protection and warmth.

From the Specialized website:

When training rides are wet and cold, this waterproof and lightly insulated shoe with Body Geometry technology will keep you warm and dry every time.

  • Waterproof and seam-sealed upper with 2-strap Velcro closure locks out moisture
  • Performance-enhancing BG contours in the outsole and footbed
  • Thermal fleece-lined BG footbed uses a reflective metallic barrier to trap heat around the foot
  • Lightweight nylon sole with sturdy co-molded lugs for traction
  • Reflective heel accent for visibility on dark training rides
  • Toe area insulation for added warmth
  • Snug-fitting collar forms a gusset to lock out moisture
  • Compatible with all major MTB pedals
  • Approximate weight 400g (1/2 pair #42)

 

 

When placing the order, I faced my first dilemma: sizing.  The Defroster does not come in half sizes and I am a perfect fit for 44.5 in the Specialized shoes.  Huh.  So, in order to make the testing work, I tried both a 44 and a 45.  The shoes run pretty true to size and the 44 was tighter than I would like and the 45 was much too loose, even with a moderately heavy wool sock.  The 44 would not allow for double socks, but the 45 would so that was kinda interesting.  It gave me the chance to see how much just the shoe was doing for me with a normal sock before I began to layer up.

I rode about 10 or so rides in the 44 sized shoe with either a Merino wool or a Olefin Swiftwick sock.  With temps in the 50s and slightly above, it was decent combo (though a bit snug) and I only got cold a couple of times.  After wearing them for a few rides, the weather warmed up and I tossed on the normal shoes with the mesh toe panels. With the old shoes I was surprised how much I noticed the wind coming through to my feet, and that was with the same wool sock on.  The full coverage of the shoe and the neoprene boot/cuff do a good job of cutting any wind that might rob heat from da’ feet.

However, once the temps got into the 40s, I could feel the cold creeping into the Defroster shoe through the footbed and the toe area of the shoe. It was time to go up in shoe size and layers.  The 45 size allowed me to layer an Olefin Swiftwick +4 sock under a Merino Swiftwick +4 sock.  That was a perfect fit. The ride began at 42 degrees and hit into the 50s and I was pretty happy, although I was aware of cold creeping in.  If it was 32 degrees, I think I would have been cold.  But, everyone has their own thermostat and mine tends to run on the low side.  I am the sock/slippers wearer around the house and I typically battle cold feet, so the point of acceptable warmth is a bit of a personal thing.  For longer, colder rides, I think I would look into adding warmth through science by placing some chemical heat packets in the toe section.

The shoe also is advertised as being waterproof, but there is no mention of Gore-Tex so it is hard to know how well the shoe might breathe.  I did not feel any issues with moisture build-up, but it is pretty low humidity during our winters.   As far as being waterproof, it may be a while before we get rain here and even then we typically do not ride in it as it messes up the trails.  We just wait a day or so till the weather improves.  So, I stood on the front lawn and ran water from a garden hose over the shoes, avoiding going higher than the boot cuff and I never got a drop of water in the shoe.  It sure seems that any puddle splashes and slushy rides would be dealt with as long as the water did not creep over the top of the cuff.

My overall thoughts are that the Defroster is in between a full winter boot like a Lake and the typical MTB shoe that you would wear.  The water shedding abilities, the lack of mesh panels and the extra insulation in the footbed and toe section do make for a very nice step up from what I was using.  I think I expected too much from just a shoe as far as adding warmth.  It is not a pair of Sorels.  But the extra sock layer that the ½ size larger shoe allowed for was much warmer.  However, the odd decision of not having a ½ size step in the shoes is awkward.  It worked out for me, but what if I was a 44 normally?  Then the 44 would have been a bit tight with 2 socks and the 45 would have been a full size larger and that may have been too big, even with a double layer of socks. 

I am very pleased in the performance of the shoe so far, even if it was not the absolute answer to my typically cold piggies.  The BG Defroster lists for $175.00 and compares in price to the Shimano SH-MW80 at $200-$229 dollars typically and the new Lake MX140 shoe at $189.99 and offers the BG fit system, allowing you to select different levels of orthotics to the shoe and is available through a wide dealer network.

 

Reader Comments (8)

Nice, thanks for this review. I'm a big fan of Specialized shoes and can't seem to like any others since trying them out 5 years ago.

Have you done any hiking in them, and if so, how did they work for that? I'm curious about the taller cuff enclosure. That cuff enclosure also looks like it could restrict blood flow to the feet, making them colder. Is it tight?

December 8, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDave Harris

I've worn them down to 32F with Cabelas inGenius socks (which deserve their own glowing review). So far, they have been as warm as a pair of Answer Kashmirs that are one size too large for my feet for extra insulation. They aren't just a warmer, waterproof shell, they're actually insulated.

The fit out of the box is a little snug for Specialized. So if you do get them and you don't actually wear the largest size like me, you may want to consider one size too large for riding under freezing. Personally, I think I will put a bootie on top of them and push them to their limits. The fit a LOT nice than the old Kashmirs I've been using. The other option is wearing a heated sock.

December 8, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterwilltsmith

@DaveH

You actually push and hike on your rides? ;) Huh. Imagine that.

I have not hiked in them so I cannot say. Although I have a feeling they would be fine, they are a stiffer overall build due to no mesh panels, etc. So, in that sense, there is a bit less 'give' in the shoe when hiking/pushing. The cuff is not at all restrictive, but there is a stretch section (that sits where the top of a normal shoe would be) that you need to mess with a bit to get your foot into. No biggie, but it takes a bit of pulling and I have not noticed any feeling of tightness at all.

When I ride in them and walk around, they feel very much like my normal BG shoes, just more substantial if that makes sense.

granngear

December 8, 2009 | Registered Commenteradmin

A test of winter shoes in 50° to 40° degree conditions: useless.

December 13, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterzwerk@cs.edu

@zwerk

I disagree. It depends where you live and what conditions you need to ride in. As I stated, I do not rate them as a true winter-in-Montana boot like the much more expensive and bulky Lakes. 30-40 degrees or rainy is typical of a lot of winters in the western/desert part of the country and is the point to where I think a normal riding shoe sucks. I rode in them on a rain ride, temps in the 50s, with dry feet and warm toes. Everyone else on the ride had wet feet and semi warm toes. I bet every one of them would have worn those shoes for the ride if I had a stack of 'em in the truck.

I consider the Defroster a very good, light weight, moderate winter shoe and for some, it may even be good for colder days then I see here. I will stand by the test and the conclusions I came to. However, the article was not useless...it gave you something to disagree with!

grannygear

December 15, 2009 | Registered Commenteradmin

I just got a pair myself in 44, my (generally) normal size. I recently wore them during a ride with temps in the upper 20s with two layers of wool socks and the shoes felt fine until about an hour into the ride when my toes felt cold. Cold they were, but not uncomfortable. When the temps dip into the lower 20s and below, I'll put booties over them.

December 24, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterdocfink

Granny,

Have you tried these yet on a cold winter night or a 30F 7 AM frosty morning ride yet at higher elevations in So Cal? If so, how long did they last before your toes started getting cold? Considering I normally wear a 45, should I go 46 on these with more insulating sock layers?

January 5, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRandy Boy

@Randy Boy

I have been wearing them through the night rides and cold days...perhaps not quite 30 degrees though. As I said, I tend to run cold as far as extremities go and I think I would get an hour or so into the ride at 30 degrees before I felt the cold creeping in. My plan is chemical warmers for extended, cold rides.

I wear the 45s (normally 44.5 in my other shoe) and they take a wool and a regular sock with a nice, snug fit.

grannygear

January 13, 2010 | Registered Commenteradmin

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